Kwaliteit liquid speed

Bal0en schreef:toch wel; ontken het maar es wat er staat.

In many places, methamphetamine is more common than amphetamine, because it is more potent and easier to make. Pure methamphetamine is easily crystallised and is more readily smokeable than amphetamine because it doesn't have to be converted to freebase first (since methamphetamine sublimes directly from solid to vapour form with the application of heat). Due to the size and appearance of the crystals, methamphetamine is often referred to as 'crystal meth', 'ice' or 'glass'. While methamphetamine tends to have more pronounced effects than amphetamine, most things that are true for amphetamine also hold for methamphetamine.

Sometimes amphetamines are sold as a pasty or waxy substance. There are a few reasons this can happen; a common misconception is that pasty or damp amphetamine samples are 'stronger' than dry powder. Damp of pasty speed can result from leaving it out in the open, especially in a moisture rich environment, because certain chemicals absorb water from the air (explained below). Moreover, if all of the freebase is not properly reacted when converting to salt, the oil will cling to the crystals causing them to stick together in waxy clumps. Neither of these things makes the end-product any more potent than the dry salt (although freebase is more potent by weight than the salt form).

Chemically speaking, amphetamines are generally either a freebase or a salt. The term 'freebase' is widely misused in regards to amphetamines; used correctly, freebase refers to the drug in its natural (pure) form. Since amphetamines are amines, and amines are bases, the pure form is called the freebase because it is the base free of any other functional groups. Freebases tend to be oily liquids at room temperature and pressure, and are often quite volatile (i.e., they evaporate easily). As a consequence, the freebase form is generally preferable for smoking; however, freebase oils are also more difficult to store and measuring accurate doses can be problematic. For this reason the freebase is almost always converted to a salt.

The salt form is more common on the street, and is made by performing an acid/base extraction of the freebase, where the type of salt produced depends on the acid used. With most drugs, hydrochloric acid (HCl) is used, which produces HCl salt. However in the case of amphetamines, the HCl salt is not particularly suitable because it absorbs moisture from the air quickly (i.e., amphetamine HCl is 'hygroscopic'). For this reason the sulphate salt is preferable to the hydrochloride salt; as a consequence, most 'street speed' is amphetamine sulphate. In the case of methamphetamine, the HCl salt is far more common, because it forms better crystals and the sulphate is not suitable for smoking.

Bal0en schreef:dat zal niet gaan ik ben namelijk zo geniaal en briljant dat ik er gek van ben geworden.

norco schreef:

Bal0en schreef:toch wel; ontken het maar es wat er staat.

leg mij eens uit wat er staat dan want ik begrijp er geen bal van..

En verder:

In many places, methamphetamine is more common than amphetamine, because it is more potent and easier to make. Pure methamphetamine is easily crystallised and is more readily smokeable than amphetamine because it doesn't have to be converted to freebase first (since methamphetamine sublimes directly from solid to vapour form with the application of heat). Due to the size and appearance of the crystals, methamphetamine is often referred to as 'crystal meth', 'ice' or 'glass'. While methamphetamine tends to have more pronounced effects than amphetamine, most things that are true for amphetamine also hold for methamphetamine.

Sometimes amphetamines are sold as a pasty or waxy substance. There are a few reasons this can happen; a common misconception is that pasty or damp amphetamine samples are 'stronger' than dry powder. Damp of pasty speed can result from leaving it out in the open, especially in a moisture rich environment, because certain chemicals absorb water from the air (explained below). Moreover, if all of the freebase is not properly reacted when converting to salt, the oil will cling to the crystals causing them to stick together in waxy clumps. Neither of these things makes the end-product any more potent than the dry salt (although freebase is more potent by weight than the salt form).

Chemically speaking, amphetamines are generally either a freebase or a salt. The term 'freebase' is widely misused in regards to amphetamines; used correctly, freebase refers to the drug in its natural (pure) form. Since amphetamines are amines, and amines are bases, the pure form is called the freebase because it is the base free of any other functional groups. Freebases tend to be oily liquids at room temperature and pressure, and are often quite volatile (i.e., they evaporate easily). As a consequence, the freebase form is generally preferable for smoking; however, freebase oils are also more difficult to store and measuring accurate doses can be problematic. For this reason the freebase is almost always converted to a salt.

The salt form is more common on the street, and is made by performing an acid/base extraction of the freebase, where the type of salt produced depends on the acid used. With most drugs, hydrochloric acid (HCl) is used, which produces HCl salt. However in the case of amphetamines, the HCl salt is not particularly suitable because it absorbs moisture from the air quickly (i.e., amphetamine HCl is 'hygroscopic'). For this reason the sulphate salt is preferable to the hydrochloride salt; as a consequence, most 'street speed' is amphetamine sulphate. In the case of methamphetamine, the HCl salt is far more common, because it forms better crystals and the sulphate is not suitable for smoking.

norco schreef:

Bal0en schreef:toch wel; ontken het maar es wat er staat.

leg mij eens uit wat er staat dan want ik begrijp er geen bal van..

En verder:

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Bal0en schreef:Basische amfetamine bestaat niet.

HOW CAN I TURN SALT INTO FREEBASE?
Salts are the reaction of an acid and a base, so converting the salt back to freebase requires the reversing of the initial reaction, this is called an acid/base extraction. It's a fairly simple process for someone with a decent understanding of chemistry and the right equipment. There is a wealth of information online about how to do A/B extractions and any decent chemistry textbook will cover it so I won't go into too much detail here. Before attempting an A/B you should probably purify the drug first as described above.

The basic procedure involves basifying the speed with lye (sodium hydroxide/caustic soda). This is done by dissolving the speed in distilled water and mixing this with a solution of distilled water saturated with lye. This reduces the amphetamine to its freebase form which should separate from the water once it settles because it is not water soluble.

Amines are very common organic molecules, and many are physiologically active. Amphetamine, for example, is a central nervous system stimulant and acts as an antidepressant. Amines are particularly valuable because of their ability to act as bases, a property that is a consequence of the ability of amines to accept hydrogen atoms from acidic molecules.

Bal0en schreef:zucht dat is gewoon een vervoeging van to freebase http://www.thefreedictionary.com/free-base
jij kent echt je talen niet he?

1. (Chem.) The basic form of an organic amine which is capable of forming acid salts such as hydrochlorides.
2. The basic form of a drug, often more powerful than a salt form because it is more readily absorbed into the blood stream.

segfault schreef:Duidelijke info***

Bal0en schreef:en nog wat: het smeltpunt van amfetamine ligt boven kamertemperatuur; het is dus een vaste stof, meestal komt het als poeder. Dit kun je navragen.

seth schreef:(navragen op partyflock soms? )

luister jongen, ik weet niet of je ooit speed hebt zien produceren, maar amfetamine = olieachtige substantie. Maar waarom hou je zo hardnekkig vast aan je eigen idee? Terwijl het halve forum schreeuwt dat je het mis op hebt? Weet je meer? Heb je divine guidance? Vertel het ons.

Bal0en schreef:een feit is in de eerste plaats een feit; amfetamine heeft een smeltpunt van uit mijn hoofd+_
280 graad celcius, poeder is soms nat daardoor lijkt het een vloeistof maar het is scheikundig een vaste stof. Dan lul je niet meer he?

Sulfate, (C9H13N)2.H2SO4, Alentol, Benzedrine, Psychoton, Simpamina. Crystals. Slightly bitter taste followed by sensation of numbness. mp above 300° (dec).

Angelique schreef:

norco schreef:Dit zijn fijten, kun je niks op inbrengen.

Iemand die feiten met een 'ij' spelt, die heb ik nog lager staan dan een zandkorrel.

Salientje schreef:Heerlijk een tijgertje met klauwtjes ....

Mag ik je schatje ooit worden dan ?

Ik kan ABN typen, en speel graag ' hard to get '.

Bal0en schreef:vloeibare speed is in nederland niet op de markt. Liquid speed wel en dat is een energiedrankje.

Bal0en schreef:zuivere speed is een poeder dat is een vaste stof en iets kan niet tegelijk een olie en een poeder zijn op kamertemperatuur.

Bal0en schreef:en een 'fijt' bestaat wel degelijk ik heb er een op mijn voet.

Bal0en schreef:Kwalitatief Uitermate Teleurstellend bedoel je?(acroniem)

Bal0en schreef:norco ik zie dat jij precies een(1) maand na mij als member bent toegetreden; dat kan geen toeval zijn.