Methoxetamine

Tweaker schreef:Geen ervaring met keta, maar ik heb in principe bij bijna alle drugs dat ik vaak moet pissen. Niet extra veel bij MXE dat ik weet. Drink trouwens ook vaak bier er bij en dat heeft sowieso wel het effect dat je vaak naar de wc moet, weet niet of jij dat ook doet?

I've been talking with Chinese lab sources who say MXE production has been halted in China due to the EU ban.

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EDIT 2: Ripping through clearnet sources and their reagent tests aren't coming back positive for MXE. We are almost certainly taking something else. The middlemen the vendors use are being lied to by the labs. Is there even any real MXE out there right now?

I've been talking to the person who produced most of the world's MXE up until a few months ago. The Chinese government has told all labs to stop production of MXE. They're trying to prevent a reverse new-age Opium War because the EU knows that almost all the world's MXE is coming from a few Chinese labs. They're not going to cut their nose off to spite their face, but they're also damn well not going to shut off that 500 KG MXE monthly money funnel. China selling knockoffs!? Who'd of thought.

Eko schreef:Recent nog gekocht, en dat was thans goed spul, werkte precies zoals het hoort.
Hoe zit het trouwens met die ban, we horen al maanden en maanden dat "het er heel snel zal aankomen"

Eko schreef:En met gewenning: gewoon zakje uitkappen en wegsnuiven

Ano schreef:
MXE tolerantie is een grote bitch

Eko schreef:idd. Als ik terug een eigen stek heb is het tijd voor nog een fietsbelmeeting (deze keer wél met meer gasten dan enkel Duif en ik, also, perfect normaal om soms ff compleet onresponsive te zijn, gaat gewoon over, en herinnert ge u achteraf niet, so don't freak out )

Italiano schreef:Is al wel vaker vermeld ja. Althans, dat de Europese Commissie een voorstel heeft ingediend om o.a. methoxetamine te verbieden. Is dit wetsvoorstel er al doorheen gekomen?

EDIT: ja kennelijk sinds september vorig jaar al (heb lekker zitten slapen dus). Nu dus wachten totdat NL het implementeert..

actualiteiten/europa-bant-mxe-mdpv-25i-nbome-en-ah-7921-t10153.html

*** EU wide ban coming up for these products: MDPV, Methoxetamine, 25I-NBOMe!

Make sure to order them soon before they will be illegal! Exact date for the ban is NOT yet known. It could be in a few weeks, but will be latest in a few month! ***

Eko schreef:Recent nog gekocht, en dat was thans goed spul, werkte precies zoals het hoort.
Hoe zit het trouwens met die ban, we horen al maanden en maanden dat "het er heel snel zal aankomen"

The first test I did was with my Mecke reagant test. I put a few mg of the substance into the container, and then a few drops of the reagant. Here are the results: https://i.imgur.com/bKImGlp.jpg
The reagent never changed from brown to green as expected, it stayed at brown.

I then tried with Mandelin, here are the results: https://i.imgur.com/O7afgMj.jpg
It's hard to see with this picture but the reagant went from lime green to a cyan blue.

Now, this doesn't really prove anything, I believe a Morris reagent would be more useful, but it does add credence to the recent theory that a lot of the MXE going around is actually MXM or MXP.

For science, I did about 25mg orally (I allergy tested a few milligrams first and didn't die, so I figured it was worth a shot). It produced the exact same dissociation as the MXE I've tried in the past (purchased from a clearnet vendor called finechems, for the record).

Eko schreef:idd. Als ik terug een eigen stek heb is het tijd voor nog een fietsbelmeeting (deze keer wél met meer gasten dan enkel Duif en ik, also, perfect normaal om soms ff compleet onresponsive te zijn, gaat gewoon over, en herinnert ge u achteraf niet, so don't freak out )

A little while ago, I had been reading speculation on these forums (from /u/GrandWizardsLair and others) that China had privately made MXE illegal and directed all research chemical manufacturers to stop production. It was claimed that these manufacturers were still selling product advertised as MXE but it was, in fact, MXP or something similar.

Now, I had recently engaged in business with a Chinese supplier and received about 10 grams of their MXE for sampling. It looked just like pictures of the white flour MXE I had seen online. I did some research myself and didn't notice any effects of MXE as described online but did observe some effects.

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In order to help the community, I sent the sample to ecstasydata.org and after 2.5 weeks here are the results. Unfortunately, they were not able to identify the substance but as you can see, they say it is NOT MXE. The EcstasyData.org Team will follow up on this result and do further testing to try and identify the compound but it seems conclusive that it is not MXE and is consistent with my own one-time research experience.

EcstasyData: Lab ruled out methoxetamine, but was unable to identify the substance. We've ordered a new lab standard of methoxetamine just to make sure and will try to identify this substance.

We have done an NMR analysis by our own chemist in a university lab and it showed that the product is pure MXE without any problems.

However I can confirm that many batches of MXE coming from china have and had problems in the past and also there are plenty of chinese "labs"/vendors that will simply sell fake products.
Due to this we always test new products with independent NMR analysis and for every new batch of a known product and from a lab that we are working with the minimum that we do is to checked with melting point analysis BEFORE we put it up for sale, to be sure that it is what it should be and additionally we still often do an NMR analysis on new batches as well.